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Discussion of the ReadingsWe saved worship for later, when we might have Donfred and Susan with us.
Two questions of all years on p.74 of the RRG prompted our conversation. "How does your understanding of the nature of God intersect with the understanding you encounter in your study? What part did your personal experience or learning play in forming your understanding of God?" (Scott pointed out that EfM advises us, when a text disagrees with our sense of things, to examine the roots of our own reactions without rejecting the text.)
At first, Jessica found no personal connection to the chapter about the Council of Chalcedon (cal - SEE - don), but she did like the fact that a tale of Buddha, transformed into one about Balaam and Jehosephat by an admiring monk, helped to spread Christianity in Asia and Africa, taking the faith in the 5th and 6th centuries beyond where disciples had gone. Literature teacher note: an invented story can be a vehicle for truth.
Scott asked Jessica, "But can you relate to a council trying to come to a faith decision?" That really boosted energy in Jessica and others. She explained how this Council of Chalcedon separated churches from the Central Church, and she could readily identify from her own experience with dissension over Vestry decisions and lost members.
Lanie relates from her experience on a committee: 17 people with 13 different opinions, and trying to please everyone. She answered the original question about our understanding of God, saying, “I think I can feel God working in this committee. We get the feeling something isn’t quite right, and that seems to be guidance from the Holy Spirit.” So, insisting on consensus forces compromise and sharing – and that may be an opening for the Holy Spirit to act. That's how it works in Acts. See story of James of Jerusalem speaking up in a council meeting about Gentile Christians.
Lanie addressed that question about relating to the understanding of God in the readings to that of her personal experience. In Leviticus and Numbers, God seems very harsh, heavy on punishment. Relating to her Baptist tradition, Lanie had grown up with the same kind of harsh judgmental God. Later, she discovered the God of the Episcopal church to be more loving, forgiving, and so of the New Testament. "Maybe God got to the point of just saying I’ve tried everything – so I’ll send my son down."
Jessica offered that these rules or laws were maybe not about right and wrong, but about how to identify / define / unify a community in the same way we stick to the BCP. It’s not for their own sake, but for their effect on us as individuals and as a group. Daniel agreed. "This group of people leaving Egypt probably weren’t unified, and many carried Egyptian ways with them." He offered how he had felt as a Boy Scout, how his BSA uniform engendered identification with his pack.
Going back to the original question, Daniel really enjoys reading Old Testament… likes the image of distant figure on the throne.
As a teacher of very young children who don’t understand rules, he needs for them to know the rules still matter. Also: as one who was always missing ritual in his life, Daniel likes seeing it in the Old Testament.
Joyce jumped onto Daniel’s ritual comment and told us how she loved the order – the ritual - Joyce got very excited telling about her introduction to the Episcopal Church, and also the Gospel of Matthew. Like Joyce, Matthew loves numbers!! 3 sets of 14, 7, 12 = Israel. Numerology. Scott commented that the Priestly source in the Hebrew Scriptures has a similar personality trait, being crazy about numbers and lists.
Somehow, this reminded Joyce of a comment about Jesus sending Legion into a herd of swine that plummeted to death on the rocks. "That was the first Deviled ham!" Fittingly, after the break, it was determined that Jessica had landed on the secret square, and she won a lifetime supply.
Yr. D, Living Into the Journey with God, Unit 2 Theological Reflection as a Life Skill: 1st yr: Lanie, Daniel; 2nd yr: Donfred, Joyce, Susan; 3rd yr, Jessica; 4th yr, Scott. Mentor: Scott. Absent: Susan, Donfred.
Worship and GatheringFor worship, Lanie chose prayers that emphasized the passage of day into night. Our answers to her gathering question told us a lot about each other: "What is your favorite time of day?" We answered
sunset reminds me of twilight walks at the beach with my husband and son... Early morning 7am... We're early birds... late night, especially camping, hearing the many sounds of wilderness... at night, when you're listening to music, drinking a martini, and doing a crossword: the all-day voices of worry are silenced.
Theological ReflectionScott imagined a good preacher who has a text to illuminate for the congregation. The people expect some new way of looking at the passage. What can the pastor do? They touch on the familiar ideas, what's commonly said about the scripture... get everyone to imagine what's going on in the passage... draw out God's intention in the passage, and what goes wrong, and what might redeem it... find connections to other scriptures... tell what we've probably been taught about situations like this... relate the passage to a familiar movie or book... bring in a personal experience...:
these are what we do in a TR!
Before she left town, Susan had chosen for us to work on a selection from the Tradition source, the All Saints Day reading from John 11 that ends at verse 44: Jesus commands those present to unbind Lazarus and let him go free. That's where Jessica wanted to focus, and, after considering other aspects, we (like any good committee!) agreed. Scott urged the group to focus further on just one of the characters -- with the caveat that Jesus should be off-limits because, being also God, he opens discussion to lots of issues and speculation about how much the Incarnate God knows about himself, the universe, and the future. We chose to focus on Lazarus himself.
We explored the passage from Lazarus's point of view. What is he feeling when he hears the command to "come forth?" Ooo, what's that smell?... Confusion, disorientation...darkness...moving like the Mummy, stiff in tight bands of cloth, unable to see clearly... confronted by tearful loved ones, and tearful Jesus. Joyce imagined, Why're you bothering me? I was fine. Kind of like our answers to Lanie's gathering question about sunrise, we imagined the revival of Lazarus being something like being awakened from a deep sleep. He'd be sore. He might feel like we do when the alarm rings at 5am.
[Note from a former Drama teacher: Twice, exploring this story, we discovered new things when we thought like actors. Before we got deep into what Lazarus felt, Daniel was surprised to hear a sharp accusation of Jesus in his own tone when he acted out Mary's words, "If you'd been here, he wouldn't have died." Daniel went further to imagine how Mary, having sat adoringly at Jesus's feet in an earlier chapter, may feel betrayed.]
We further explored the passage by asking about theological perspective questions. What could cause brokenness in this scenario? Suppose Lazarus had refused to wake from his death and get up? Redemption comes when we respond to the call.
Connections: Joyce (I think) related this to the culture source when she remembered the movie Look Who's Talking, in which Bruce Willis, voicing an infant being pulled from the womb, yells "Noo - oo -- oo! Let me stay in!" (Joyce did a great impression of the kid.) Does this suggest that death may be yet another womb, another period of development, and the life after, a new birth and a life with its own challenges?
We wondered about the action source (experience). Jessica said we could all relate to being called, unsure, unsteady -- being made new, whether that's a good or bad thing (or: easy or painful thing).
Jessica related all of this to the tradition source in another reading on All Saints Day, Revelation, "See, I'm making all things new."
We transitioned into the insight and applications movement when Daniel said, "I've thought, Wouldn't it be nice if so-and-so were resurrected? Now I'm wondering, would that be fair to them?" He reached a conclusion that, even when resurrection is taken into account, death comes at a cost to those who die, and to those who are left behind.
To apply our thoughts, we looked at the form of a collect and used the "chat" function to contribute lines to a collect:
Dear Lord, even if I go to Sheol, you are there:
Almighty God, whose power can overcome death, You alone can bring us to new life in you. We pray that we may die to ourselves so that we may become afresh and anew in Your spirit. Amen
Like Lazarus, we may feel disoriented, even resistant, when we are called out of our safe and settled lives into change;
Dear God, You brought Lazarus back to his family and friends; help me to understand that my loved ones must be with you and no longer here with me; help me rejoice that there is no more pain and no more sorrow for them and that they are waiting for me to join them in your heavenly kingdom when it's my time to go. In your most precious name I pray, Amen.
Dear Lord, You are with us through it all and You enable us with your strength to worship You with all our heart.
Our Father who dwells among his children. You call the dead out of their tombs and into your presence. We pray that we may feel your tears, so that. We may know that you love those we mourn. Amen
For Monday:We'll derive a TR from the first half of our meeting. We're back to the beginning in our "Wheel of Worship" with Scott bringing worship next week. (Over the following weeks, the "Wheel of Worship" will alight on Jessica, Donfred, Joyce, Susan, Daniel, and Lanie.) Next week, we won't have Daniel, as he'll be at his first Vestry meeting - we hope it's more fun than Chalcedon. We may not have Lanie. We'll be reading assignments for Week 11 - and don't forget to read what's in the RRG!
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