Mariel led off with a liturgy called "Table Office: Gratia," focused on giving thanks. Some of us wanted to know about the book Venite, her source. Scott's dinner was "Pasta Puttanesca." While we ate, we responded to Mariel's question about "eternity."
Tom led off the discussion with his reflection on the recurrent theme of God's punishing the Hebrews for disobedience. Mariel shifted emphasis to the winning. Scott brought up stories where the Old Testament God encourages faithful people to lay aside weapons and armies to let God do the fighting. We thought of the stories Maccabees 1 and 2; Scott later thought of David's laying aside the armor of Saul to fight Goliath. Lynne remembered noticing in first year readings how often God gave His people choices. Gene was struck by the "voodoo" rituals such as the march seven times around Jericho, the magical aspect of it. Erika highlighted another theme in Old Testament writings, "Remember, you were slaves once."
When Tom considered how much of the Old Testament is political -- such as the many passages that exalt Jerusalem as the sole place for proper worship, when other places had been fine before -- he said he questioned how much God is involved in writing the Scriptures. Erica said that depends on whether one thinks the Bible is direct from God (as Muslims believe the Qu'ran to be), or whether one sees it as witness to a long-term relationship by a variety of voices and perspectives.
"Politics" gave Scharme a segue to discuss the French champion Charles Martel and his decisive victory over Muslim invaders in 732. She went on to tell us about Charlemagne in 800, the earlier Clovis, and the development of the Celtic church.
The 4th year students read an essay by Coakley in our RRG that struck Lynne most forcefully with the observation that most modern Christians would not see their experience of God as "Trinitarian." She had not thought, before, how the Annunciation to Mary is a Trinitarian story: God the Father elected Mary, mediated with the Spirit, to give incarnation to the Son. Bill reported that "sustained prayer," supported by communal worship, helps us to experience the Trinity -- in part because we believe that we cannot feel the urge to pray without the Spirit in us.
Bill brought for our TR a Youtube video that juxtaposed the Lord's Prayer, spoken in gruff, gutteral German ("Vater Unser"), and an aggressive techno-disco accompaniment (see photo). Some of our initial reactions were very negative: "You can't do that!" ... comparisons to martial chants in Nazi Germany... suspicion that the whole thing was ironic, male posturing. Others were moved by the thought that "faith isn't always pretty," that faith can be compared to armed struggle.
After gathering insights, traditional touchstones, cultural beliefs, and personal experiences suggested by the phrase "prayer warrior," we settled on a statement of insights rather than an actual collect, as follows:
- Prayer Warrior: We are amassed in Prayers of the People world wide.
- We thought of Jacob's struggle with God, or God's angel.
- "In our church, we can hold two ideas in tension," resolving the positive and negative aspects of this "prayer warrior" idea.
- Our church's "Middle Way" is both/and, not either/or.
- We were reminded of the Third Year reading's origin story for many monasteries, as places to pray for the sins of soldiers who were too busy fighting to pray for themselves.
- Both individual prayer of the angry, aggressive (or desolated) sort, and our controlled, loving communal sort, are both meaningful and legitimate.
Mariel concluded with a reading from Psalm 94 that related to the idea of armed struggle.
Next week: Susan will bring dinner; Erica will bring worship and a "coming on board" question; Gene will bring something to stimulate a Theological Reflection. We all read what's scheduled for Wk. 14, a common reading by Morgan, preface and chapters 1-4. Our RRG book has some recommendations to keep in mind as we read: see pp. 72-75.




